In this episode, Randall & David talk with Dan Baumann of Chief Experts about why a design-then-build remodeling firm can be a great profit center, different types of design-build remodeling companies, how you can improve your design process, and we get into a specific CAD program that can really make you stand out from the crowd.

In this week’s podcast episode:

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Dan Baumann of

00:50 What David did for his birthday
01:44 Randall introduces this weeks episode
02:21 Who is Dan Baumann
02:57 What you’ll learn from Dan
04:12 A little bit about Dan and how he became a sought after residential designer
05:12 Why is Design-Then-Build a good platform?
06:54 Charging for design services
08:18 Closing ratios for remodelers
09:19 By selling design first Dan qualified his best prospects
12:02 How Randall locked prospects into doing business with him
14:05 What are people charging for average kitchen and bath designs?
17:16 What CAD programs are popular in the remodeling industry right now?
19:00 What Dan likes about Chief Architect
21:49 Transforming a remodeling company from struggling to a strong beneficial business
22:51 Should you use an in-house designer or sub-contract designer
24:10 Getting conceptual ideas together
24:29 When should you delegate work
26:04 Where to find people to design for you
26:55 More tips to improve an existing design build process
27:28 A Great tip for measuring a house
29:03 Dan’s drawing process
30:39 How Randall process for measuring for a remodeling design
31:29 How taking lots of pictures can reduce liability
32:43 What can do for you
34:50 Can you use Chief Architect straight out of the box?
35:55 How to get better and more efficient with Chief Architect
36:39 Making anything with a slab in Chief Architect
38:14 Making odd objects with Chief Architect slabs
40:12 A unique presence at the builders show in Las Vegas
41:47 The Remodeling industry is improving
43:03 How to contact Dan Baumann of
44:10 You deserve to be paid for your professional service
44:45 This weeks Person of Interest (POI)
46:48 App of the week
49:29 Episode wrap-up

Episode Person of Interest (POI) is David Miller – D. R. Miller Design Build of Hartville, OH. Who does 5.7 million in revenue with just 4 staff members.


Chief Experts
Chief Architect – Architectural Home Design Software
ChiefTalk – Online forum to discuss Chief Architect
– App of the week – JLC flash drive…This one isn’t an actual app but is important to the industry because you can now get all of the Journal of Light Construction issues on flash drive for just $59.00